I wanted to create a separate topic for this discussion since I've seen it come up several times without being fully studied and addressed. A major problem that I've noticed in many of socionics descriptions of (Ti,Se) type called LSI is that LSIs are described to be rule-followers who uphold rules, laws, order, and regulations above anything else, as the social mission of this type according to Stratievskaya.
I'm always surprised to read such descriptions of ISTjs how they are supposed to love rules, order, and regulations, when the socionics "benchmark" for LSI is Joseph Stalin - the man who went against the existing order, against every conceivable rule, against the regulations of his era, who defied the authorities and the government, a man who created anarchy and unrest in his country instead of keeping order, and used the ensuing chaos to make himself the head and chief of his country.
The question is: Is there something fundamentally wrong with the way socionics describes ISTjs, their behavior, in everyday life as well as how they go about achieving positions of power? On this very forum I've seen some posters quote these LSI profiles verbatim, but even those few members who self-type as LSI don't seem to agree with this. Doesn't this seem problematic?
I'm always surprised to read such descriptions of ISTjs how they are supposed to love rules, order, and regulations, when the socionics "benchmark" for LSI is Joseph Stalin - the man who went against the existing order, against every conceivable rule, against the regulations of his era, who defied the authorities and the government, a man who created anarchy and unrest in his country instead of keeping order, and used the ensuing chaos to make himself the head and chief of his country.
The question is: Is there something fundamentally wrong with the way socionics describes ISTjs, their behavior, in everyday life as well as how they go about achieving positions of power? On this very forum I've seen some posters quote these LSI profiles verbatim, but even those few members who self-type as LSI don't seem to agree with this. Doesn't this seem problematic?
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Originally Posted by squark
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Yes, you're confused. LSIs don't love rules and regulations. Order is something entirely different. A law or a regulation tells you what to do and how to do it. This is why it falls under Te. The kind of "rules" that fall under Ti are more along the lines of organization and categorization. This belongs in this category, it doesn't belong in that one. This fits with this and that, but not with that.