http://www.the16types.info/
/258-Model-A-Blocks-and-Functio
I now see that Aushra has changed Freud's original theory of the ego,superego, superid, and id. According to Freud, a child only first has an id, then develops an ego, then superego (superid isn't in his theory". So how does this then apply to socionics, if even possible. I'm IEE, so does that mean as a child I was once like an "unconscious" IEI? Does this comment on how type is created?
"The first row of Model A (functions 1 and 2) is called the Ego block. These functions describe the aspects of reality that a person perceives with the greatest depth and clarity and verbalizes with the greatest ease. The Ego block also describes the most natural and common states of mind and behavior styles used when interacting with other people, and also a certain perspective that a person injects into the things he says."
Verbalizes with the greatest ease? Okay so how would someone verbalize functions like Se or Ti, how is it possible to identify this happening? It's easy to see if someone is using Ne because they are making external connections between things, but Ni, Se, Ti etc? So if someone is verbalizing Se does that mean that they are talking about what is literally there? This part confuses me because while the concept makes sense I have no way of actually seeing how this works for all 16 types.
"The second row of Model A (functions 3 and 4) is called the Super-Ego block. The individual's free and spontaneous use of the Ego block functions implies limitations on the use of these functions, which are a kind of rejected alternative to the Ego block. Each type tends to believe that his own Super-Ego functions are meant to be used only for the purposes established by the Ego functions; that is, their application is limited to serving the Ego block's interests. When a person's own interests are not sufficiently developed and people around him pressure him to be more competent with his Super-Ego functions, distress and disappointment result. The psyche is not able to channel energy through the Super-Ego functions long enough to achieve lasting results, which leads to disappointment, guilt, and even neuroses if the individual believes that the development of these functions is the measure of his worth as a person."
Any descriptions of the functions blocked together in this sense then? I am Ti vulnerable and don't understand what this would look like for me. How am I disappointed and/or guilty about Ti based things or even Se for that matter? What do these negative feelings look like for all 16types, are there examples, what are the implications here?
"The Ego block functions require a constant stream of new information and stimulation (whether by direct experience, observation, study, or reflection) and quickly sort through this information, recognizing what is useful and necessary and what is not. When exposed to the types of information corresponding to the elements of the Ego block, a person takes immediate note and quickly forms his own attitude or opinion on the matter. He is more confident of his own judgments in these areas than of other people's, even if those people are widely accepted authorities. Instinctively, people are likely to overuse these functions and apply them in practically any area, even when their relevance is minimal. This makes the ego functions (and in particular the base function) more obvious to a casual observer than the other functions."
What does this mean for someone to overuse them, being Ti vulnerable does this mean I approach like mathematics from an intuitive ethical perspective? What do these things really mean, and where is socionics jurisdiction? Does socionics comment on the way that I learn, or only on how I approach things and process information? What does it look like for someone to be overusing functions, how can this be identified?
Also for the superid and id, what does it look like for someone to be using unconscious/vital information? Also, is it possible for me to suddenly become aware of it, if I try to focus on it?
I now see that Aushra has changed Freud's original theory of the ego,superego, superid, and id. According to Freud, a child only first has an id, then develops an ego, then superego (superid isn't in his theory". So how does this then apply to socionics, if even possible. I'm IEE, so does that mean as a child I was once like an "unconscious" IEI? Does this comment on how type is created?
"The first row of Model A (functions 1 and 2) is called the Ego block. These functions describe the aspects of reality that a person perceives with the greatest depth and clarity and verbalizes with the greatest ease. The Ego block also describes the most natural and common states of mind and behavior styles used when interacting with other people, and also a certain perspective that a person injects into the things he says."
Verbalizes with the greatest ease? Okay so how would someone verbalize functions like Se or Ti, how is it possible to identify this happening? It's easy to see if someone is using Ne because they are making external connections between things, but Ni, Se, Ti etc? So if someone is verbalizing Se does that mean that they are talking about what is literally there? This part confuses me because while the concept makes sense I have no way of actually seeing how this works for all 16 types.
"The second row of Model A (functions 3 and 4) is called the Super-Ego block. The individual's free and spontaneous use of the Ego block functions implies limitations on the use of these functions, which are a kind of rejected alternative to the Ego block. Each type tends to believe that his own Super-Ego functions are meant to be used only for the purposes established by the Ego functions; that is, their application is limited to serving the Ego block's interests. When a person's own interests are not sufficiently developed and people around him pressure him to be more competent with his Super-Ego functions, distress and disappointment result. The psyche is not able to channel energy through the Super-Ego functions long enough to achieve lasting results, which leads to disappointment, guilt, and even neuroses if the individual believes that the development of these functions is the measure of his worth as a person."
Any descriptions of the functions blocked together in this sense then? I am Ti vulnerable and don't understand what this would look like for me. How am I disappointed and/or guilty about Ti based things or even Se for that matter? What do these negative feelings look like for all 16types, are there examples, what are the implications here?
"The Ego block functions require a constant stream of new information and stimulation (whether by direct experience, observation, study, or reflection) and quickly sort through this information, recognizing what is useful and necessary and what is not. When exposed to the types of information corresponding to the elements of the Ego block, a person takes immediate note and quickly forms his own attitude or opinion on the matter. He is more confident of his own judgments in these areas than of other people's, even if those people are widely accepted authorities. Instinctively, people are likely to overuse these functions and apply them in practically any area, even when their relevance is minimal. This makes the ego functions (and in particular the base function) more obvious to a casual observer than the other functions."
What does this mean for someone to overuse them, being Ti vulnerable does this mean I approach like mathematics from an intuitive ethical perspective? What do these things really mean, and where is socionics jurisdiction? Does socionics comment on the way that I learn, or only on how I approach things and process information? What does it look like for someone to be overusing functions, how can this be identified?
Also for the superid and id, what does it look like for someone to be using unconscious/vital information? Also, is it possible for me to suddenly become aware of it, if I try to focus on it?