If you know DCNH, skip to part 2
Ok, so first of all, there is a correlation between DCNH and "artificial temperament":
D = Exxj
C = Exxp
N = IxxJ
H = Ixxp
So if you're LIE N, you're an Exxj type with an artificial Ixxj temperament. ENTj is the unchanging core, but because of circumstances you've adapted to act more like an Ixxj. This explains un-stereotypical people and differences between people of the same type. D is the "pure" subtype for LIE, because that's the subtype that resonates with their type, and I believe that people are born with their pure subtype. Gulenko says that subtype can change through much effort and change of environment. This is all official DCNH theory, except for the part that you are born with your pure subtype, as far as I know.
So I wanna ask everyone that reads this: Do you think you were born with your pure subtype? For example if you are IEI C, N or D, do you feel as if you were H as a small child and that you changed later on? Because I'm certain that I was a pure C as a teenager, although no one on here would type me that today, and I agree with that.
The DCNH dichotomies simplified:
Contact/Distance: Basically Extrovert/Introvert. D and C are Contact, N and H are Distance.
Terminating/Initiating: Basically Rational/Irrational. D and N are Terminating, C and H are Initiating.
Connecting/Ignoring: Basically Dynamic/Static. D and H are Connecting, C and N are Ingoring.
These are simplifications, and there's more stuff that goes along with these, but if you add all of this together, you get the temperament relation shown at the top. That's why I like to think of DCNH as a changeable temperament vibe that people have based on what sort of life you have. If you're a manager, you're gonna vibe as an Exxj, even though that's not what you are, making you D.
There's also the relation to DCNH and your function stack:
D = Lead
C = Creative
N = Role
H = PoLR
I think this is where DCNH starts getting weird, because if you're an EII D, you have strengthened Te and Fe because of the artificial Exxj temperament, but at the same time you're more focused on your Fi lead. This is literally a contradiction, because Te and Fi are opposites, and I'm not sure what Gulenko is thinking here. This may or may not be true, but I choose to focus on the temperamental aspect of DCNH instead, because that's how it becomes useful to me, and that makes it more directly tied to social interaction and group dynamics, which is the entire point of DCNH.
part 2
Ok, so that's the basis of what I'm gonna talk about next. First of all, how should we identify the subtypes? Let's forget what papa G says and breathe some fresh air into this and make it useful. Let's simplify DCNH as EJ, EP, IJ and IP subtypes, because that makes intuitive sense and it's neat and simple. Everyone knows people that are "introverted extroverts" or vice versa. Some people just really vibe as an extroverted type, but they are relatively introverted for that type. I don't think this necessarily counts as a mistype, because there's all sorts of reasons why extroverts can become reserved over time or introverts start becoming more outgoing, but that doesn't change who they are. Let's also add J/P to the equation, because why not. Irrationals can get their shit together, rationals can get out of their own assholes, people change.
What does the IJ archetype imply? It implies that you stay at home and are orderly. Gulenko calls SLE N a "strong handy man" and a house person that can fix things and is interested in real estate and material things. For women in general, IJ might manifest as a house wife, you're at home, you keep things orderly. And also, N's match with D's, so it makes sense for N's to be housewives. But for men, or maybe just more masculine types, it manifests as a strong dad that can fix things around the home, still a very manly stereotype even though I categorize them with housewives.
And I would argue, that in my own personal system of this, that if you're not functioning as a leader in a group, then you're not D. You can be LIE, but if you're not a manager, or a socioal group organizer, you're not in your pure subtype. This how simple I like to keep it, because it actually makes sense, and it's a useful way to look at it. If you think that you're aggressive, and therefore D, you might just be an Se ego that is naturally aggressive, but that doesn't make you a leader. The leader is more like an EJ archetype. You look outward, you make desicions about things. You can be super stubborn and outspoken, but if you're not able to lead people, you're not D. Having people depend on you is what makes you D. Everyone that is a manager is D by my definition, atleast if they do it successfully. Because that's the social role that you have, and that's what I like to think of DCNH as.
EP is people that like to go out and have fun. If you're LSI and you party all the time, you're a C, you're acting like an EP. If you have the energy to create things, even though you don't get paid, you're probably C. Because C is EP, which is high energy (extraversion), and fun (irrationality). H's like fun, but they lack the energy, so they match with C's. If you sit at home and wait for people to invite you out to have fun, you're H. If you sit at home and wait for people to invite you to something more serious (such as a formal date, social event, or even a career opportunity), you're N.
This makes 4 really neat categories to put people in, and it makes DCNH actually useful and more relatable. In a way, DCNH is more real than type, atleast from a social perspective. Your type is just what you are naturally good at. Me for example, I'm really athletic, so I would be good at having fun (Exxp). I would be perfect as an athlete or fun-haver in general because of how I was born, professional boxers probably dream of having been born in my body. That is my natural self, my type. But that is not who I am socially, I've become more J-ish over time. So I'm not a C. I was a C when I was a kid and didn't know better, I was super energetic as a kid and just fun fun fun all the time. But life made me reconsider what I wanna do.
Does this resonate with anyone else? Doesn't this make sense? I like this way of looking at it. Let's not even call it DCNH, because I don't wanna get called out for being officially wrong. This is just how I see it:
EJ subtype: Literally a leader, people depend on you.
EP subtype: You actually go out and do fun things often, just for the sake of having fun. You probably even waste money for the sake of pursuing what you like doing, musician, fun-haver etc.
IJ subtype: Look around your home right now, is it in order? Do you keep your paperwork in order? Is there actual concrete reasons to call you orderly? If not, then you're not N. If you're N you want someone to invite you out to do some formal event
IP subtype: Inside + fun...eeehh idk, video games? Movies? Books? Would be nice if someone took you out though, right? Any type can be like this, and if you are this person then you're IP subtype.
Ok, so first of all, there is a correlation between DCNH and "artificial temperament":
D = Exxj
C = Exxp
N = IxxJ
H = Ixxp
So if you're LIE N, you're an Exxj type with an artificial Ixxj temperament. ENTj is the unchanging core, but because of circumstances you've adapted to act more like an Ixxj. This explains un-stereotypical people and differences between people of the same type. D is the "pure" subtype for LIE, because that's the subtype that resonates with their type, and I believe that people are born with their pure subtype. Gulenko says that subtype can change through much effort and change of environment. This is all official DCNH theory, except for the part that you are born with your pure subtype, as far as I know.
So I wanna ask everyone that reads this: Do you think you were born with your pure subtype? For example if you are IEI C, N or D, do you feel as if you were H as a small child and that you changed later on? Because I'm certain that I was a pure C as a teenager, although no one on here would type me that today, and I agree with that.
The DCNH dichotomies simplified:
Contact/Distance: Basically Extrovert/Introvert. D and C are Contact, N and H are Distance.
Terminating/Initiating: Basically Rational/Irrational. D and N are Terminating, C and H are Initiating.
Connecting/Ignoring: Basically Dynamic/Static. D and H are Connecting, C and N are Ingoring.
These are simplifications, and there's more stuff that goes along with these, but if you add all of this together, you get the temperament relation shown at the top. That's why I like to think of DCNH as a changeable temperament vibe that people have based on what sort of life you have. If you're a manager, you're gonna vibe as an Exxj, even though that's not what you are, making you D.
There's also the relation to DCNH and your function stack:
D = Lead
C = Creative
N = Role
H = PoLR
I think this is where DCNH starts getting weird, because if you're an EII D, you have strengthened Te and Fe because of the artificial Exxj temperament, but at the same time you're more focused on your Fi lead. This is literally a contradiction, because Te and Fi are opposites, and I'm not sure what Gulenko is thinking here. This may or may not be true, but I choose to focus on the temperamental aspect of DCNH instead, because that's how it becomes useful to me, and that makes it more directly tied to social interaction and group dynamics, which is the entire point of DCNH.
part 2
Ok, so that's the basis of what I'm gonna talk about next. First of all, how should we identify the subtypes? Let's forget what papa G says and breathe some fresh air into this and make it useful. Let's simplify DCNH as EJ, EP, IJ and IP subtypes, because that makes intuitive sense and it's neat and simple. Everyone knows people that are "introverted extroverts" or vice versa. Some people just really vibe as an extroverted type, but they are relatively introverted for that type. I don't think this necessarily counts as a mistype, because there's all sorts of reasons why extroverts can become reserved over time or introverts start becoming more outgoing, but that doesn't change who they are. Let's also add J/P to the equation, because why not. Irrationals can get their shit together, rationals can get out of their own assholes, people change.
What does the IJ archetype imply? It implies that you stay at home and are orderly. Gulenko calls SLE N a "strong handy man" and a house person that can fix things and is interested in real estate and material things. For women in general, IJ might manifest as a house wife, you're at home, you keep things orderly. And also, N's match with D's, so it makes sense for N's to be housewives. But for men, or maybe just more masculine types, it manifests as a strong dad that can fix things around the home, still a very manly stereotype even though I categorize them with housewives.
And I would argue, that in my own personal system of this, that if you're not functioning as a leader in a group, then you're not D. You can be LIE, but if you're not a manager, or a socioal group organizer, you're not in your pure subtype. This how simple I like to keep it, because it actually makes sense, and it's a useful way to look at it. If you think that you're aggressive, and therefore D, you might just be an Se ego that is naturally aggressive, but that doesn't make you a leader. The leader is more like an EJ archetype. You look outward, you make desicions about things. You can be super stubborn and outspoken, but if you're not able to lead people, you're not D. Having people depend on you is what makes you D. Everyone that is a manager is D by my definition, atleast if they do it successfully. Because that's the social role that you have, and that's what I like to think of DCNH as.
EP is people that like to go out and have fun. If you're LSI and you party all the time, you're a C, you're acting like an EP. If you have the energy to create things, even though you don't get paid, you're probably C. Because C is EP, which is high energy (extraversion), and fun (irrationality). H's like fun, but they lack the energy, so they match with C's. If you sit at home and wait for people to invite you out to have fun, you're H. If you sit at home and wait for people to invite you to something more serious (such as a formal date, social event, or even a career opportunity), you're N.
This makes 4 really neat categories to put people in, and it makes DCNH actually useful and more relatable. In a way, DCNH is more real than type, atleast from a social perspective. Your type is just what you are naturally good at. Me for example, I'm really athletic, so I would be good at having fun (Exxp). I would be perfect as an athlete or fun-haver in general because of how I was born, professional boxers probably dream of having been born in my body. That is my natural self, my type. But that is not who I am socially, I've become more J-ish over time. So I'm not a C. I was a C when I was a kid and didn't know better, I was super energetic as a kid and just fun fun fun all the time. But life made me reconsider what I wanna do.
Does this resonate with anyone else? Doesn't this make sense? I like this way of looking at it. Let's not even call it DCNH, because I don't wanna get called out for being officially wrong. This is just how I see it:
EJ subtype: Literally a leader, people depend on you.
EP subtype: You actually go out and do fun things often, just for the sake of having fun. You probably even waste money for the sake of pursuing what you like doing, musician, fun-haver etc.
IJ subtype: Look around your home right now, is it in order? Do you keep your paperwork in order? Is there actual concrete reasons to call you orderly? If not, then you're not N. If you're N you want someone to invite you out to do some formal event
IP subtype: Inside + fun...eeehh idk, video games? Movies? Books? Would be nice if someone took you out though, right? Any type can be like this, and if you are this person then you're IP subtype.