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November 11, 2019, 9:21 pm
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I know it's difficult for some people to type themselves in association with the functions but I hope that my small guide will help you.

It maybe hard for you to look at these 8 functions and say "which one do I use?" "which one do I use first?" "which one do others see me using?" but I feel as though the best self discovery may be made through journaling. Some topics you should explore are:

1. Ask a parent and a sibling "what am I like?"

I know when I ask my cousins they often tell me "you're very calm" and "you sit in the corner and journal even when you're at a party" so I journaled this and later on it meant that I don't do much Fe. So much of this meant that I was an introvert. Anyway, you get some interesting insights and objective perspective about yourself when you ask those who know you well.

2. You should write down what you say, how you react, what you react to. Your words are often very important in exploring the functions. If you happen to want to draw attention to yourself in a theatrical way, or you feel left out and need to feel important or included by others...these all shed interesting lights about you.

Long story short...journaling is a wonderful self discover and I encourage it.
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What's the best choice when typing someone?

November 12, 2019, 6:25 am
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If you can, explain why you think your preferred method is superior.
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Gulenko's Book

November 12, 2019, 6:27 pm
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Type Eric Strauss (of TwFP)

November 13, 2019, 3:57 am
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Which is the only typing method that doesn't lie?

November 13, 2019, 4:24 am
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That would be VI. A test relies on the honesty and self-awareneness of the taker, same with a questionnaire (although tests are a bit better), but VI; VI doesn't lie. If your pattern recognition database is correct, you can see what type people are just by looking at them. Somebody could be asserting that they are an IEE-Fi all day long, but if you see them and notice that they're an LSI-Ti instead, there's no possible deception. Then it can be confirmed via observing a bit more if it seems correct (their interaction) and that's it. No ruse would be efective. You just gotta be able to call an ace an ace and a spade a spade.

The only problem is getting sufficiently good at it.
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which type do you dislike the most?

November 14, 2019, 8:56 am
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let's have a discussion on ESI-Fi contrasted to ESI-Se.

November 15, 2019, 12:03 pm
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  • Se type is more common among people with mtDNA haplogroup K and D (and H to a lesser extent). Fi type is VERY common in people with mtDNA haplogroups J and T and L.
  • Se-type has a more visual learning style and have excellent visual processing/awareness; Fi-type is much more auditory.
  • Se-type has better coordination, less likely to trip, movements are smoother.
  • Se-type uses deductive reasoning and doesn't miss visual details anywhere near as much, Fi-type is inductive in thought and neglects details especially doesn't notice visual cues in the environment and isn't good at true/false questions because they miss key words. Se-type keenly perceives key words.
  • Se-type is more mentally stable (less anxious, less needy, very unlikely rage).
  • Se-type is always enneagram 6 core (often 468 tritype), Fi-type is 9 or 2w1 (126). Fi-type is the most common of all 32 types among schizophrenics. Fi-type is also prone to bipolar disorder.
  • Se-type is warmer and more gentle than Fi-types; they truly use the MBTI functions Si, Fe, Ti, Ne in order. Fi-type plays favorites, is more racist, more sexist, unlikely to be feminist, more likely to have visceral hatred for individuals and more likely to lose control and to turn physically brutal (yes, 2w1s can be very cold, hateful, and violent).
  • Se-type frequently marries ILE-Ti. However, ILE-Ti hates ESI-Fi and ESI-Fi gets annoyed by them as well.
  • A higher percentage of female ESIs are the Se-type than male ESIs (enneagram type 2 is actually more common in males than females; look at how much prettier/feminine Enneagram type 8 women are than Enneagram type 2 women; the Enneagram Institute website has them listed though Jennifer Tilly and Sarah Jessica Parker are 8s not 2 and not 6, respectively).
  • Fi-type finds it harder to adapt to new environments and new people, even though the opposite would be expected from the enneagram types.
  • Fi-type gives unpleasant-sounding commands, especially if they lose control of their anger. Se type just gives information or simply takes action without saying anything.
  • Fi-type is more serious in demeanor though their humor is more light-hearted if they joke at all.
  • Fi-type makes "dad jokes", Se-type's humor is more sophisticated.
  • Fi-type is a lot more internally and physically strained, is a lot more likely to panic in danger.
  • Fi-type looks more masculine and less gentle.
  • Fi-type uses harsher sounding words and talks in a more commanding, harsher, less gentle tone than the Se-type.
  • Se-type is much more likely to have a biological mother and/or maternal grandmother who were left-handed.
  • Se-type has much longer legs but members of both types are usually pretty slim.
  • Se-type is more common among popular artists (singers, actors, actresses, etc., etc), entrepreneurs, bank directors, intelligence officers, police officers, military, and technicians (Se-type makes good use of introverted thinking). Fi-type is more common among govt workers, workers for large corporations, and the unemployed.
  • Se-type has much softer voice, Fi-type speaks a lot louder
  • Se-type parents are much less strict with their children and see themselves as guides rather than rulers, Fi-type parents are the most restrictive of all 32 types and resort to hitting their children while the Se-type doesn't.
  • Se-type is much more loose and casual, has greater ease of social interaction, is more open-minded.
  • Se-type is much less predictable and their work is a lot more original, they're more creative.
  • The Fi-type plans much more.
  • The Fi-type is much more likely to say "it's definitely going to happen" while the ESI-Se is much more oriented to the present and doesn't try to think too far ahead.
  • The Fi-type can appear to favor the obstinate, declaring, farsighted, emotivist, aristocratic, and judicious dichotomies.
  • The Se-type handles Fe better and can appear more Fe-valuing even though it should be the other way around based upon inert functions supposedly drained.
  • The Se-type is much more attuned to other peoples' moods.
  • The Se-type is more playful, can "let loose" much more easily.


Look at the difference in the quotes between George HW Bush (Se-type) and Obama (Fi-type) on their wikiquote pages and in Bush's interview with Larry King vs videos of Obama. Bush was a lot less cold to his mother than Obama was towards his, and is much more comfortable and elegant speaking about his emotions towards people and relationships while Obama can't really decide whether he wants to appear as a cold "thinking man" or a nice person. The Se-type is much less dissatisfied with the world and their relationships, while the Fi-type thinks they want to change the world. Bush was much more soft-spoken than Obama and his language was a lot less harsh than Obama's.

Major contrasts between the two subtypes are also shown in the Kaine/Pence debate. Kaine was the Fi-type, Pence was the Se-type. That just shows how much calmer, smarter, and more gentle the Se-type is.

Something else kind of intriguing, is that the Se-type are common among police officers and in military combat, even the marine corps yet are much more gentle, while Fi-type is too internally sensitive, anxious, not visually aware enough, and not coordinated enough to be in combat yet is a lot harsher; Wilhelm Keitel was the Se-type while Adolf Eichmann was the Fi-type.

Please critique/correct this post if you see anything wrong or think anything is wrong in it. Maybe I made a lot of errors, so I want to be corrected wherever I'm wrong and want more information=)
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November 15, 2019, 5:50 pm
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sbbds does a questionnaire thoroughly

November 15, 2019, 7:52 pm
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What do you study or do for a living? How did you come to do that? What do you like or dislike about it?

I’ve been an expatriate for the last few years, and my field is within nonprofits, charity organizations, and education. I’m currently working as a teacher, for kindergarten to junior high school students mainly. I teach English and science. I might attempt a masters degree in Development Management very soon.

I just fell into my current job a few months ago out of necessity due to suddenly quitting from my previous job and needing to maintain constantly employed for documentation purposes. Before that, I was working as a manager at a cultural/language center, and for the board of a medical exchange nonprofit. I left these jobs because I was being harassed by the owners, and also because they were being ineffectual. I had a couple of other odd jobs as well, such as editing international trade emails, and assisting university teachers: preparing lectures, marking homework and editing research abstracts, IT/tech stuff, etc.

I studied a number of different things noncommitally, including biology, linguistics, psychology and business operations management. Ultimately I decided to pursue my calling for doing something humanitarian, and my previous studies have ended up being useful towards this.

I got into this field because I hate injustice, and incompetence in the world of trying to make a difference. I also have always had a distaste for over-indulgent consumerism, wasting resources, and upside-down, inhumane prioritizing of values on a global scale. I had a lot of issues within my family and community growing up, and this sent me into deep depression as a teenager. I found that volunteering and helping out in the community was healing for me. I have always been praised for my critical thinking abilities, so I decided that I would just try it out. It was also around this time that I found out that I was an ESTp and realized that my strengths corresponded to the profile. So I decided I would use my uncommon personality in this humanitarian field to cut off excess frivolous waste, and implement better decision-making with frugality and critical analysis. Use my cunning, pragmatism and hard edge for the greater good so to speak lol.

Actually some Ni leading types who had already been successful gave me a lot of encouragement and support too.

I generally like my current job, except that there are too few vacation days, pay is low, and my coworkers will hear me if I have to fart. I like talking to and dealing with all my unique, generally very well-adjusted kids and coworkers, and I like being a part of their development. I took this job on in an emergency though, and I’ll probably be gone by the end of next year.

What are your values, and why?

What the fuck is a value? I value perseverance, caring kindness, empathy, kinship and love, maybe.

What else do you do on a daily basis? What are your interests and hobbies? Why do you do them?

Typology, reading articles on psychology, science, and esoteric topics on the internet. I also like health and fitness stuff. I used to lift weights, do hot yoga, and run regularly, but it’s been a while. I don’t really have much free time at the moment, but I use it keeping in touch with friends, listening to music and reflecting or spending time with my boyfriend when not on here.

Why I do them is an unnecessary question. Keeping your mind, body and relationships healthy is obviously desirable.

I suppose other than occult things, if I have more free time I actually like to read fiction or learn things about the world that I can use somewhat tactile-ly, like brushing up on languages, physical sciences and how different things work. I used to do things like read the Tao Te Ching and about various philosophers too, and attempted the Bible, attending church and temple, some religious study when I was a kid. It was just dabbling and I tend to set metaphysical things aside once I get the basic idea of them though. I remember when I was a kid I learned HTML and CSS just to make a nice custom web page about my pet hamster. I lived close to our community library and went fairly often. I tried knitting, pottery, a whole bunch of different sports as a kid / young teen, before I become depressed. I’m basically a “try everything once” type of person.

Actually I’m working on a language certification now, but being lazy about cracking down and studying. I’ll be cramming.

Describe your relations with family and friends. What do you like and dislike about them?

Friends - good. Family - bad, generally speaking. I haven’t spoken to my family in half a year. My friends are family to me.

I like that my friends are fantastic, caring, persevering and successful people in their own lives. They are understanding and supportive of me, and we all understand each other very well due to having somewhat similar backgrounds. We make the effort to keep in touch with each other and meet whenever we can, even though we’re busy and often are living in different areas of the world. We are invested in each other’s lives and personal development. It brings me great pleasure to be supportive towards someone worth the investment, and to have each other as a part of our journeys. My best friends are SEE and LIE. I have another person I’d consider a best friend who I primarily interact online with, who is IEI. These are all women.

I’d consider my ILE boyfriend to be a best friend too. Some other internet friends like @Viktor (he doesn’t use this now) are also like my best friends, and I have a male LSI friend from school who I sporadically yet regularly keep in touch with.

I’ve always had issues with my family, and relations with them are just barely hanging in there. My mother is a very not-self-aware, childish, violently angry LSE e1w2. She’s a tiger mom on steroids. At the least, our family doctor thought she had post-partum depression and bipolar. My dad is an ILI e5 who was probably heavily abused as a child and young man, by his mentally ill stepmother who escaped from Nazi Germany. He continued letting himself be abused by my mother, and eventually ended up being abusive towards me too. My childhood (and adulthood when I wasn’t living away from family) was characterized by daily screaming matches that lasted for hours or nights until morning, verbal and physical threats and occasionally violence, interventions by family and social workers that never worked, neighborhood arguments with the police being called, etc. As a result I am a little bit hesitant when someone wants to get close to me or says they love me lol, and don’t think blood means much at all.

I did spend a lot of my childhood being raised after school by my ESI grandmother and LIE grandfather too, who were relatively much saner. They couldn’t really understand what I was going through though because they weren’t able to witness most of it. They were also from traditional Confucian culture where relational issues and especially mental illness are heavily stigmatized. This created distance between us and I would say between me and people as a whole (I was also an only child), but I considered my grandparents to be my more responsible, “real parents” nevertheless. I would be more able to recognize my closeness with them if I hadn’t had my attachment reflex crushed and stomped on 1000 times over by my actual parents.

What do you look for in friends? In romantic relationships?

Friends: Someone who can understand me, who I can be blunt, genuine and candid with, and who can fit into my life like family. People who are emotionally supportive, with some similar interests.

Romantic relationships: Love (deep mutual investment, caring and understanding), low-key fun, someone I can be myself around who can listen to my rants and opinions, monetary support and prestige is nice too lol, and sexual compatibility. Someone to grow together with.

In both I’m looking for people who I can devote myself to and who can join my life journey, basically. This requires us to be highly invested in each other’s life goals and development. It’s like what religious people say about devoting yourself to “god”, except I want to do it with my relationships with people who actually exist LOL.

What conflicts have you encountered recently with other people? Why did they happen? Which kinds seem to happen on a regular basis?

Probably the biggest conflict I’ve gotten into recently has been with my ex-boss, several months ago. He was an LIE and not very mature or honest. He made sexually vulgar, crude comments about my boyfriend and I (at the least), and was retarded with management and finances. A bunch of his employees quit around the same time, including me.

I sometimes have minor conflict with my bf but it’s basically just him being dumb/inexperienced, me complaining and then him being like “OK sorry”. He never gets angry back at me so I’m not sure how far that constitutes conflict.

How would your friends describe you?

IEI male 4w5: Outspoken, smart, cute. Disparate online and IRL presences.

SEE female: Deep, gifted thinking, loyal, weird

LIE female: Derpy, unexpectedly caring, thoughtful and attentive, unique thinking, can have trouble articulating self, very well-liked by everyone in school (“One thing that stood out was how literally everyone liked you, like anybody who you asked would say they thought sbbds was cool, and all sorts of vastly different groups would invite you to hang out with them”)

SEE and LIE: Generally very socially aware

ESI ex-supervisor: Everyone at work liked you

ILE male: Really intelligent and astute, mature, funny with a dry, ironic sense of humor, a good person, good teacher, very positive outlook on life

EIE male: Pure, kind of a geek

SLI, SEI, ILE female coworkers: Very professional, confident, managerial vibe, strong, very focused and hardworking

People who do not know me well often comment that I seem like a somewhat restrained and reserved yet high-energy, mysterious, deep thinker. I have a memory of bumping into a friend’s dad when I was a kid (he is an alpha NT) and he randomly said, “sbbds could be a philosopher”. I have a lot going on inside me but I can’t be bothered to articulate even a small portion of it, usually.

What do people generally see as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

Other people: In adulthood, probably seeming smart, put-together and attractive.

What I like about myself: I like my ability to prioritize and execute things to ensure success even under trying circumstances. I also like that I actively try to be a good person, and don’t care too much about superficial mundane things. I like that I don’t make unfounded assumptions about people (they are usually based on experience when I do, and are therefore usually right), nor do I see people as two-dimensional.

What are your weaknesses? What criticism do you often face from others? What do you dislike about yourself?

I’m not terribly timewise always. If I know the time won’t be important, I will ignore it. However, I’m gifted at timing when it comes to important things.

I’m very sensitive towards the attitudes certain others have towards me. It’s important to me to be liked by them at all times lol. I’m emotionally needy and dependent on my loved ones and on those I see on a daily basis, even though I try not to show it, and am very sensitive about these people especially. I’m not sure if I dislike this about myself, but it represents difficulty.

I can very occasionally run my mouth slightly inappropriately by accident lol. I guess that’s something I don’t like about myself.

In what areas of life can you manage well on your own? In what areas of your life would you like help?

I think everything is good right now. I just wish I had more time, money and energy of course lol. I prefer being independent.

What things do you dislike doing? What things do you enjoy more than others?

I dislike pretty much everything involved with work of any sort, unless I can really feel like I’m doing something productive and am getting into the flow. I like organizing things when I have nothing better to do. I absolutely hate routine that humans have been domesticated into doing, like waking up, going to work, sleeping, and eating at specific regular times. I don’t like to follow anyone or anything, especially an arbitrary chart telling me how to live my life, like a factory farm animal.

I enjoy relaxing and exerting myself on my own terms, according to my own plans and logic, basically. Sometimes I like outside help by being pushed to do things I want to, but only to some degree.

What goals, aspirations, or plans do you have for the future? How did you come to have them?

I used to not be into excess and luxury too much, but then I discovered modern architecture on Pinterest lol. I also realized I wanted to have a family eventually, and I want to be able to support and protect my existing family and friends in case of emergency and to just enjoy life with them, so I want to reel in the green, get married and have my own family. That’s my goal. I realized how important making money was when I was a student returning from working, unemployed, had very little financial and immediate other support around me left and hit rock bottom. I hope to do it within the humanitarian sector (or make money through education or business) and reach greater heights of success there too, eventually being more involved in strategic management with nonprofits that specifically handle developing countries, but we’ll see.

I’m trying to see if I can get a master’s right now, within the next couple of years. I also want a better more relevant job that pays more next year when my current job contract ends.

If you had enough money to live comfortably for the rest of your life without working, what would you do with your time?

Get married and have kids right away, travel the world with my family, invest and donate, continue current career path.

What traits do you find endearing that others might dislike? What traits are considered positive/neutral by others but tend to annoy you?

I like a non-PC sense of humor if it’s actually funny. I don’t like shocking things just for the sake of shock. They need to be distinctly rude in an overdone and absurd, but self-aware way. Facetiousness. For example racial humor, if it’s not stuck-up.

For example, I love this guy, who I believe is also SLE: https://youtu.be/YhQk61zvQ2c

I love anything ratchet and crass, dark humor and silliness as long as it isn’t too degenerate or lacking of humanity in an unironic way, or used in a situation where it could hurt (note: not just offend, but actually hurt) others. I pretty much hate anyone showing disapproval of it or of immaturity like this in general, while thinking themselves to be mature and proper, showing they don’t know what real immaturity even is. I like an anti-authoritarian spirit.

I don’t like pretentiousness, when people follow popular opinion without thinking for themselves, or too much fake emotionality. I don’t like it when people desire order and conformity. I think perfectionism and over-cleanliness are both bad. I don’t like caring about tiny inconveniences or first-world problems, which people don’t brace themselves for, and I don’t like having to vicariously experience their incompetence and frustration over it due to emotional contagion. I don’t think those things are good to prioritize and I don’t like it when people prioritize things in an ineffective way.

I don’t like it when people judge others only based on pretentious markers like what school they went to or what their job is, if it isn’t directly relevant criteria.

I like women who are bold and not afraid of the judgment of others when showing themselves off. I don’t like when women are jealous of other women and closed off because of it.

I don’t like it when people unironically act according to social memes or stereotypes.

I also really dislike it when adults act irresponsibly towards or around children and dependents.

What kinds of things do you do to manage and/or beautify your environment (your room, your house, etc.)? What do you think of daily chores?

To be honest the point of decorativeness as an art or for the sake of it is one I don’t truly understand. However, I really like nice sleek clean modern architecture and interior design because it looks cool and makes me feel calm and like I’m a rich person lol. I like beauty, nature and harmonious lines and I would say that I require it, but I mostly get it from the outside world since I spend most of my time there anyway. I can organize and present my living area attractively, but I don’t really care at all if I’m just on my own. I don’t really mind swimming in garbage. I only clean right before people come over, which is when I try to make it spotless and sanitary, or if it gets really bad.

How do you behave around strangers?

Idk, like normal I guess. I’m often listening to music or something. I almost never talk to them, but strangers will occasionally talk to me. I’m famous among my friends for unintentionally drawing in (often mentally ill) strangers to come and talk to us. If I’m on an airplane, I might talk to the person beside me right before we land (so we can escape soon if it’s awkward), or offer them some of my snacks during the flight.

How do you react to conflict? What do you do if somebody insults or attacks you?

Well it depends obviously. If it’s some random crazy (internet) stranger I might just ignore it, but I usually try to think about a resolution that’s beneficial to me (including to them too if it’s with someone I care about). If they are getting up in my face and they are not someone I know or like, then I’ll probably insult and attack them back harder. I used to be more passive but now I’ve realized it’s more efficient to hit back once hard in certain circumstances.

What is your biggest accomplishment?

Finding love. Finding and being with my friends and boyfriend in this life. We are all very close and supportive with one another.

I’ve done things like being featured in and having my work published in big international newspapers, working with top universities and high-caliber clients, and doing it all while holding my own in a foreign country as a girl living alone in spite of my past difficulties and without even a bachelor’s degree, but everything else pales in comparison to the above.

What is something you regret?

Nothing lol, pointless emotion.

Who do you admire, and why?

Lots of people in my life, usually for overcoming difficulties to become very awesome. Or I admire certain people, often IEIs for being calm or kind. I can admire people for their specific traits that shine too. It could be anything really.

Generally speaking I admire my friends, or anyone I like. I don’t really know how you’d like or be drawn to certain traits in a person without simultaneously admiring them.

I have two older women who I would consider to be my mentors, whom I obviously admire. One is an ILI professor who I used to work for, and another is an SLE optometrist. They are very beautiful and successful, in a specific way that resonates with me. I think they are also truly humble, generously giving and kind people.

When I was younger I looked up to my LIE grandpa as well. He was able to support many people, and was very successful as well. He was very attentive and caring towards me and other family members while also being a disciplinarian and migrating the entire family across the Pacific.

What's been on your mind? Has anything been worrying or concerning you? What problems have you encountered lately?

Yeah I’ve been very busy with work things and looking into future school and career things lately. And I need to save money and create a better financial plan. Also thinking about the future of my relationship as usual. Today I’m sick too, which is why I’m spending time to reflect and write this in bed.

What are your religious or spiritual beliefs and why do you hold them?

I used to not really be spiritual at all whatsoever, only philosophical and agnostic. Then in my late teens and early 20s I started having many uncanny experiences, and accepted spirituality in the universe. In any case, it is not a purely cold and rational universe. I think it’s half uncanny and magical if I’m being perfectly honest.

What are your political beliefs, and why? To what extent do you care about politics?

I’m interested in state activities, but I think “politics” as a topic of discussion is retarded. Blanket terms for political leanings that are very situational and layered in reality make me want to curl up and die. Real life, human needs and behavior and money don’t operate according to ideologies pulled out of people’s asses.

Would you ever be interested in starting a business? Why or why not? What role would you play in it? What kind of business would it be?

I have an inactive sole proprietorship. I can’t say for the future, but if I were an American citizen or from a similar place I’d make an LLC just for tax benefits lol.

What kind of work environment do you prefer? What do you look for in a job?

Somewhere I can fart, pee and poo anytime I want, that pays me lots of money with little effort or having to do mundane tasks. Somewhere with flexible hours. I can insult my bosses and they don’t care.

What is or was your favorite school subject and why?

P.E. , art and science. P.E and art because fun and sitting sucks. Science because learning basics about how the world works is important as fuck and interesting lol. You have to live in this place for 70 or 80 years, so it’s good to know what it’s all about and how it works.

How do you approach responsibility? What do you tend to expect of others?

I act based on social responsibility and incentive and basically expect others to act similarly. I’m usually always expected to take responsibility by others.

What were you like as a kid? How have you changed since you were a child?

People would call me shy a lot as a kid, even though I was more like just quiet. I was also a lot more passive and believed very strongly in turning the other cheek, in part due to others’ expectations for me snowballing. I read a lot as a kid, but don’t so much nowadays. My thoughts on spirituality and the world have also transformed drastically. I was also really stuck up, aloof and nerdy as a kid and got bullied a lot for it. I let my family members bully me too back then. I had no people skills. I didn’t know how to fake smile for pictures.

What was your high school experience like?

Soul-suckingly boring and uninspiring. Tepid, like dipping my anus in a jar of lukewarm milky water. I couldn’t connect with the other kids in school who mostly seemed passionless and dull, except for a few childhood friends of mine. Then I had family issues and severe depression which made the ending a total shit show.

Talk about a significant event from your life.

I once tried to kill myself, but then encountered a fire burning at night in the rain with no visible source of fuel, which stopped me.

Do you like kids? Why or why not?

Yes. Well usually they haven’t developed shitty or evil attitudes and intentions yet, and are adorable.

I can also empathize with them because a lot of people (continuing into adulthood) can think they’re right when they’re not, and (key part here: ) are really authoritarian, hateful, hurtful and controlling towards others about it. I hate that as well.

If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

Financial security. Otherwise, I would just want them to be good, productive, healthy people and to enjoy their lives. I don’t think I’d want to be too involved or controlling if possible. Something about smooth sailors and rough seas.

Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Just meditate or research the issue, or ask people for advice on it. Causes are, a difficult situation lol idk.

How do you see other people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

People are sacks of liquid, nerves, memories and dreams. People not seeking and managing basic important things in life first like deep relationships, purpose, financial security, and health, and instead seeking unimportant things in life, is a prevalent social problem. Just suck it up and do it. A lot of the time people don’t do or think of things that are fucking obvious or basic to me and just make their own lives difficult, which blows my mind.

What do you do if you're not getting what you want? What approach do you use?

Wait, reassess the situation, and try something else later.

Are you comfortable taking leadership roles? In what areas? Why or why not?

I don’t mind. In any given situation, strangers or people who don’t know me well might think I’m the boss or leader of a group just due to my appearance or vibe, and are waiting for me to say something helpful or leader-like. This has happened pretty consistently in my life. Then I’m like “herp derp” and they move on.

Last week, a female ILE coworker of mine asked me if I could ask our HR boss to install a refrigerator in our office, because I have a more “commanding presence”. I was not comfortable with doing that lol.

How often do you get angry? What kinds of things make you angry?

I was really angry a few weeks ago, but I can’t remember why. Mistreatment or disrespect makes me angry.

What is the purpose of life? What do you find personally meaningful in life?

Experiencing it, understanding yourself and others, loving, supporting and developing with others, progress, understanding the world.

How do you dress or manage your appearance?

Just try not to look too stupid, fugly or inappropriate, first of all. Try to dress according to the situation. Then if possible, try to look hot lol. If I worked for myself I would dress in a more sexy or revealing way. I probably objectively have somewhat high standards for my own appearance (probably because I was bullied a lot as a little kid; even by my family, whose nickname for me was just “fat girl” in Chinese), as people often randomly come up to me and tell me they think I’m good looking now. But I am quite low-maintenance about it. Like if I wear makeup, I don’t wash it off before I sleep most of the time, and this horrifies women when I tell them. I often don’t really wear socks or underwear either, unless I have some specific reason. I usually only brush my teeth once a day, although I do floss. People ask me how I maintain various aspects of my appearance sometimes in irl because I guess I seem put-together, but actually the secret is just to hate society.

 
Here I was going to some outing, a couple of weeks ago.
Here I was being a dirty fat nerd at home, a little over a year ago. I look like I was a bit mad about something. Sometimes I wear glasses.

I’ve actually lost 40lbs over the last few years, which I put on during the “hit rock bottom” period of my life.


Do you like surprises?

I like good surprises and dislike bad ones like anyone else. Nobody is going to go, “I hate you, gtfo” if you ambush and surprise them with a million dollars. Likewise, nobody will get a hard-on if you surprise them by telling them their grandma is dead (almost nobody).

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A Biased Reading List

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Derived from my Goodreads acquaintances' favourite books. Naturally, this will be biased towards their and my taste. I think it will be more "enjoyable" than my previous attempt/s (?) that was more focussed on teh canon. It will probably also be more enjoyable than lists like the Boxall 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die, and less head-scratching and laughable than some top 100 books list you may read in some newspaper.

This has numerous spelling errors in it due to database encoding issues, which I'll correct imminently. I've also not checked the publication dates yet (edit: actually, I can't be bothered checking them unless they're "obviously" wrong - you'll have to make do with what Goodreads says) (same for page count, but I certainly wasn't going to check those). I intend to add genres at some point, although not immediately. More notes to follow.

Goodreads has a big bias to recent books, especially ones published since its launch in 2007.

This list is certainly an improvement on that, but it is far more heavily weighted to recent works than my previous list\s (I cannot remember how many I've actually done).

If a compilation appeared in the top 1000 (that is, the top 1000 with duplicate material removed) along with all its component parts, I only included the compilation - but only if the components parts are for the same series.

I'm not aware that the Terry Pratchett's entire Discworld series actually exists in an omnibus, but rather than listing 35 books I simply recorded the series as one entry. There are few other such instances where I included a series where not all of the component parts were in the top 1000 - but I think I had a rule that more than 50% of the component works had to be in the top 1000.

Nightfall by Isaac Asimov is a longer version of the short story of the same name that appears in Nightfall and Other Stories, so I included both.

Two H.P. Lovecraft story collections are included separately, but you're probably better off just investigating his Complete Works in some form.

If I get round to listing books in subsections via genre, I intend to include the non-compilation works that I excluded here.

I suggest you create an account at archive.org if you have not already done so as then you will be able to borrow most of these for free, including very recent works.


No. Book Pages Year Published
1 The Epic of Gilgamesh by Anonymous 120 -2100
2 The Iliad by Homer 683 -890
3 The Odyssey by Homer 541 -725
4 If Not, Winter: Fragments of Sappho by Sappho 397 -600
5 Aesop's Fables by Aesop 306 -560
6 The Art of War by Sun Tzu 273 -500
7 Prometheus Bound by Aeschylus 144 -480
8 The Oresteia: Agamemnon, The Libation Bearers, The Eumenides by Aeschylus 335 -458
9 The Histories by Herodotus 716 -450
10 The Oedipus Cycle: Oedipus Rex, Oedipus at Colonus, Antigone by Sophocles 259 -450
11 Medea by Euripides 59 -431
12 Lysistrata by Aristophanes 132 -411
13 History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides 648 -411
14 Electra by Sophocles 128 -410
15 The Symposium by Plato 131 -385
16 Apology by Plato 127 -380
17 The Republic by Plato 416 -380
18 The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle 329 -340
19 Poetics by Aristotle 61 -335
20 The Complete Poems by Catullus 195 -60
21 The Aeneid by Virgil 442 -19
22 Metamorphoses by Ovid 723 8
23 Plutarch's Lives by Plutarch 766 100
24 The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius 363 121
25 Meditations by Marcus Aurelius 303 180
26 The Arabian Nights by Anonymous 1049 800
27 Beowulf by Unknown 213 975
28 The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri 798 1320
29 The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio 909 1353
30 The Riverside Chaucer by Geoffrey Chaucer 1327 1400
31 Le Morte d'Arthur: King Arthur and the Legends of the Round Table by Thomas Malory 512 1485
32 The Discourses by Niccolò Machiavelli 544 1513
33 The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli 140 1513
34 Gargantua and Pantagruel by François Rabelais 1041 1532
35 The Complete Essays by Michel de Montaigne 1344 1572
36 The Complete Plays by Christopher Marlowe 752 1592
37 Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra 1023 1605
38 Holy Bible: King James Version by Anonymous 1590 1611
39 The Complete Works by William Shakespeare 1248 1623
40 Paradise Lost by John Milton 453 1667
41 Ethics by Baruch Spinoza 186 1677
42 Perrault's Fairy Tales by Charles Perrault 117 1697
43 Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe 320 1719
44 Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift 306 1726
45 A Modest Proposal and Other Satirical Works by Jonathan Swift 64 1729
46 An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume 96 1748
47 The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling by Henry Fielding 1024 1749
48 Candide by Voltaire 129 1759
49 The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman by Laurence Sterne 735 1767
50 The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon 1312 1776
51 Common Sense, The Rights of Man and Other Essential Writings by Thomas Paine 416 1776
52 The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith 1264 1776
53 The Federalist Papers by Alexander Hamilton 688 1780
54 Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant 796 1781
55 Les Liaisons dangereuses by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos 448 1782
56 The Constitution of the United States of America by Founding Fathers 30 1787
57 The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge 77 1798
58 Faust, First Part by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 327 1808
59 The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales by Jacob Grimm & Wilhelm Grimm 880 1812
60 The Swiss Family Robinson by Johann David Wyss 352 1812
61 The Complete Novels by Jane Austen 1344 1813
62 Kubla Khan; or, A Vision in a Dream by Samuel Taylor Coleridge 2 1816
63 Frankenstein by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley 335 1818
64 Don Juan by Lord Byron 584 1819
65 Ivanhoe by Walter Scott 544 1819
66 The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving 108 1820
67 The Complete Poems by John Keats 416 1820
68 The Night Before Christmas by Clement C. Moore 32 1823
69 The Last of the Mohicans (The Leatherstocking Tales #2) by James Fenimore Cooper 410 1826
70 The Red and the Black by Stendhal 608 1830
71 The Hunchback of Notre-Dame by Victor Hugo 510 1831
72 Eugene Onegin by Alexander Pushkin 240 1833
73 The Lady of Shalott by Alfred Tennyson 40 1833
74 The Complete Fairy Tales by Hans Christian Andersen 803 1835
75 The Collected Tales of Nikolai Gogol by Nikolai Gogol 435 1835
76 The Pickwick Papers by Charles Dickens 801 1837
77 Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens 608 1838
78 Voyage of the Beagle by Charles Darwin 432 1839
79 Nicholas Nickleby by Charles Dickens 817 1839
80 A Hero of Our Time by Mikhail Lermontov 185 1840
81 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville 992 1840
82 Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol 512 1842
83 A Christmas Carol and Other Christmas Writings by Charles Dickens 288 1843
84 The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas 1276 1844
85 Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass by Frederick Douglass 158 1845
86 Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë 532 1847
87 Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë 464 1847
88 Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray 867 1847
89 The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Brontë 542 1848
90 Selected Poems by Lord Byron 864 1848
91 The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx 288 1848
92 David Copperfield by Charles Dickens 882 1849
93 The Complete Stories and Poems by Edgar Allan Poe 821 1849
94 Sonnets from the Portuguese by Elizabeth Barrett Browning 64 1850
95 The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne 279 1850
96 The D'Artagnan Romances series by Alexandre Dumas — 1850
97 Moby-Dick, or, the Whale by Herman Melville 654 1851
98 Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe 438 1852
99 Bleak House by Charles Dickens 1017 1853
100 Bartleby the Scrivener by Herman Melville 80 1853
101 Hard Times by Charles Dickens 353 1854
102 Walden by Henry David Thoreau 352 1854
103 Bulfinch's Mythology by Thomas Bulfinch 862 1855
104 Little Dorrit by Charles Dickens 1021 1855
105 The Warden (Chronicles of Barsetshire #1) by Anthony Trollope 336 1855
106 Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman 624 1855
107 Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert 329 1856
108 Les Fleurs du Mal by Charles Baudelaire 365 1857
109 Barchester Towers (Chronicles of Barsetshire #2) by Anthony Trollope 418 1857
110 The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins 672 1859
111 The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin 703 1859
112 A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens 489 1859
113 Oblomov by Ivan Goncharov 586 1859
114 On Liberty by John Stuart Mill 187 1859
115 The Mill on the Floss by George Eliot 579 1860
116 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens 505 1861
117 Silas Marner by George Eliot 262 1861
118 Les Misérables by Victor Hugo 1463 1862
119 Fathers and Sons by Ivan Turgenev 244 1862
120 Wives and Daughters by Elizabeth Gaskell 679 1863
121 Notes from Underground, White Nights, The Dream of a Ridiculous Man, and Selections from The House of the Dead by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 233 1864
122 Journey to the Center of the Earth (Extraordinary Voyages, #3) by Jules Verne 240 1864
123 Our Mutual Friend by Charles Dickens 801 1865
124 The Mysterious Island (Extraordinary Voyages, #12) by Jules Verne 723 1865
125 Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 671 1866
126 War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy 1392 1867
127 The Last Chronicle of Barset (Chronicles of Barsetshire #6) by Anthony Trollope 890 1867
128 Little Women by Louisa May Alcott 449 1868
129 The Moonstone by Wilkie Collins 528 1868
130 The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 667 1869
131 Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea (Extraordinary Voyages, #6) by Jules Verne 394 1869
132 Middlemarch by George Eliot 904 1871
133 The Annotated Alice: The Definitive Edition by Lewis Carroll 312 1871
134 Demons by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 733 1872
135 The Princess and the Goblin (Princess Irene and Curdie, #1) by George MacDonald 241 1872
136 Around the World in Eighty Days by Jules Verne 252 1873
137 Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy 433 1874
138 Illuminations by Arthur Rimbaud 182 1875
139 The Way We Live Now by Anthony Trollope 776 1875
140 Black Beauty by Anna Sewell 245 1877
141 Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy 964 1877
142 The Return of the Native by Thomas Hardy 448 1878
143 The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 796 1879
144 A Doll's House by Henrik Ibsen 122 1879
145 Heidi by Johanna Spyri 352 1880
146 Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ by Lew Wallace 620 1880
147 The Portrait of a Lady by Henry James 797 1881
148 The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain 240 1881
149 An Enemy of the People by Henrik Ibsen 164 1882
150 Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson 311 1882
151 Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche 327 1883
152 The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood by Howard Pyle 400 1883
153 Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott 96 1884
154 The Complete Stories and Poems by Lewis Carroll 392 1884
155 The Adventures of Tom Sawyer & Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain 520 1884
156 A Child's Garden of Verses by Robert Louis Stevenson 67 1885
157 Germinal by Émile Zola 592 1885
158 The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy 445 1886
159 The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Tales of Terror by Robert Louis Stevenson 178 1886
160 The Death of Ivan Ilych by Leo Tolstoy 86 1886
161 Three Men in a Boat (Three Men, #1) by Jerome K. Jerome 185 1889
162 A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain 480 1889
163 An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce 36 1890
164 A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett 242 1890
165 The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson by Emily Dickinson 716 1890
166 Hunger by Knut Hamsun 134 1890
167 Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy 518 1891
168 The Yellow Wallpaper and Other Stories by Charlotte Perkins Gilman 70 1892
169 Rikki-Tikki-Tavi by Rudyard Kipling 48 1894
170 The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling 277 1894
171 The Jungle Books by Rudyard Kipling 368 1894
172 Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy 310 1895
173 The Time Machine by H.G. Wells 118 1895
174 The Island of Doctor Moreau by H.G. Wells 153 1896
175 Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand 240 1897
176 Dracula by Bram Stoker 488 1897
177 The Invisible Man by H.G. Wells 192 1897
178 The Turn of the Screw by Henry James 131 1898
179 The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells 192 1898
180 Heart of Darkness and Selected Short Fiction by Joseph Conrad 261 1899
181 The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (Oz, #1) by L. Frank Baum 154 1900
182 Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad 455 1900
183 Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser 580 1900
184 Kim by Rudyard Kipling 366 1901
185 Buddenbrooks: The Decline of a Family by Thomas Mann 731 1901
186 Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling 210 1902
187 Selected Stories of Anton Chekhov by Anton Chekhov 467 1903
188 The Call of the Wild by Jack London 172 1903
189 Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie 176 1904
190 The Cherry Orchard by Anton Chekhov 96 1904
191 The Sea Wolf by Jack London 425 1904
192 The Gift of the Magi by O. Henry 32 1905
193 White Fang by Jack London 252 1905
194 The Scarlet Pimpernel by Emmuska Orczy 182 1905
195 The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton 351 1905
196 The Unabridged Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce 404 1906
197 The Jungle by Upton Sinclair 335 1906
198 The Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad 304 1907
199 A Room with a View by E.M. Forster 119 1908
200 The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame 256 1908
201 The Complete Anne of Green Gables Boxed Set (Anne of Green Gables, #1-8) by L.M. Montgomery 2088 1908
202 Complete Works of Oscar Wilde by Oscar Wilde 1270 1908
203 Howards End by E.M. Forster 246 1910
204 The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett 331 1911
205 The Lost World (Professor Challenger, #1) by Arthur Conan Doyle 272 1912
206 Pygmalion by George Bernard Shaw 82 1912
207 The Complete Poetry and Prose by William Blake 1024 1913
208 Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence 654 1913
209 Dubliners by James Joyce 207 1914
210 The Rainbow (Brangwen Family, #1) by D.H. Lawrence 544 1915
211 Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham 684 1915
212 Relativity: The Special and the General Theory by Albert Einstein 130 1916
213 A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce 329 1916
214 The Elements of Style by William Strunk Jr. 128 1918
215 The Collected Poems of Wilfred Owen by Wilfred Owen 192 1918
216 Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson 240 1919
217 My Man Jeeves (Jeeves, #1) by P.G. Wodehouse 256 1919
218 The Mysterious Affair at Styles (Hercule Poirot, #1) by Agatha Christie 121 1920
219 Main Street by Sinclair Lewis 454 1920
220 The Story of Doctor Dolittle (Doctor Dolittle, #1) by Hugh Lofting 144 1920
221 Kristin Lavransdatter (Kristin Lavransdatter, #1-3) by Sigrid Undset 1144 1920
222 The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton 332 1920
223 The Forsyte Saga (The Forsyte Chronicles, #1-3) by John Galsworthy 872 1921
224 Scaramouche by Rafael Sabatini 359 1921
225 We by Yevgeny Zamyatin 255 1921
226 The Velveteen Rabbit by Margery Williams Bianco 40 1922
227 Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse 152 1922
228 Ulysses by James Joyce 783 1922
229 The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran 127 1923
230 The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek 752 1923
231 Whose Body? (Lord Peter Wimsey, #1) by Dorothy L. Sayers 212 1923
232 A Passage to India by E.M. Forster 376 1924
233 The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann 706 1924
234 Twenty Love Poems and a Song of Despair by Pablo Neruda 70 1924
235 Heart of a Dog by Mikhail Bulgakov 126 1925
236 The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald 180 1925
237 The Complete Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway by Ernest Hemingway 650 1925
238 The Trial by Franz Kafka 255 1925
239 Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf 194 1925
240 The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (Hercule Poirot, #4) by Agatha Christie 288 1926
241 The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway 189 1926
242 The Castle by Franz Kafka 316 1926
243 The Selected Poetry of Rainer Maria Rilke by Rainer Maria Rilke 356 1926
244 Death Comes for the Archbishop by Willa Cather 297 1927
245 The Complete Sherlock Holmes (Sherlock Holmes) by Arthur Conan Doyle 1796 1927
246 Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse 256 1927
247 In Search of Lost Time (6 Volumes) by Marcel Proust 4211 1927
248 Why I Am Not a Christian and Other Essays on Religion and Related Subjects by Bertrand Russell 266 1927
249 To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf 209 1927
250 The Threepenny Opera by Bertolt Brecht 124 1928
251 Orlando by Virginia Woolf 228 1928
252 The Complete Poetry and Selected Prose by John Donne 736 1929
253 The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner 326 1929
254 Goodbye to All That by Robert Graves 281 1929
255 Red Harvest by Dashiell Hammett 224 1929
256 A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway 293 1929
257 All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque 296 1929
258 Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke 80 1929
259 Look Homeward, Angel by Thomas Wolfe 644 1929
260 A Room of One's Own by Virginia Woolf 112 1929
261 As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner 288 1930
262 Civilization and Its Discontents by Sigmund Freud 127 1930
263 The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammett 213 1930
264 Narcissus and Goldmund by Hermann Hesse 320 1930
265 The Little Engine That Could by Watty Piper 48 1930
266 Strong Poison (Lord Peter Wimsey, #6) by Dorothy L. Sayers 240 1930
267 The Story of Babar by Jean de Brunhoff 48 1931
268 The Good Earth (House of Earth, #1) by Pearl S. Buck 418 1931
269 At the Mountains of Madness and Other Tales of Terror by H.P. Lovecraft 184 1931
270 The Joy of Cooking by Irma S. Rombauer 1152 1931
271 The Waves by Virginia Woolf 297 1931
272 Journey to the End of the Night by Louis-Ferdinand Céline 453 1932
273 Light in August by William Faulkner 507 1932
274 Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons 233 1932
275 Brave New World by Aldous Huxley 288 1932
276 1919 (U.S.A., #2) by John Dos Passos 400 1932
277 Have His Carcase (Lord Peter Wimsey, #8) by Dorothy L. Sayers 440 1932
278 Little House in the Big Woods (Little House, #1) by Laura Ingalls Wilder 198 1932
279 Down and Out in Paris and London by George Orwell 213 1933
280 Murder Must Advertise (Lord Peter Wimsey, #10) by Dorothy L. Sayers 356 1933
281 Murder on the Orient Express (Hercule Poirot, #10) by Agatha Christie 322 1934
282 Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald 315 1934
283 I, Claudius/Claudius the God (Claudius #1-2) by Robert Graves 839 1934
284 The Thin Man by Dashiell Hammett 201 1934
285 Tropic of Cancer by Henry Miller 318 1934
286 Mary Poppins (Mary Poppins, #1) by P.L. Travers 209 1934
287 A Handful of Dust by Evelyn Waugh 308 1934
288 The African Queen by C.S. Forester 256 1935
289 Gaudy Night (Lord Peter Wimsey, #12) by Dorothy L. Sayers 501 1935
290 Little House on the Prairie (Laura Years, #2) by Laura Ingalls Wilder 335 1935
291 Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner 320 1936
292 The Story of Ferdinand by Munro Leaf 72 1936
293 Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell 1037 1936
294 Death on the Nile (Hercule Poirot, #17) by Agatha Christie 214 1937
295 Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston 219 1937
296 Busman's Honeymoon (Lord Peter Wimsey, #13) by Dorothy L. Sayers 409 1937
297 Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck 112 1937
298 Ship of the Line by C.S. Forester 292 1938
299 Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier 441 1938
300 Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell 232 1938
301 Nausea by Jean-Paul Sartre 178 1938
302 The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins by Dr. Seuss 56 1938
303 Our Town by Thornton Wilder 181 1938
304 The Code of the Woosters (Jeeves, #7) by P.G. Wodehouse 286 1938
305 Madeline by Ludwig Bemelmans 44 1939
306 The Big Sleep (Philip Marlowe, #1) by Raymond Chandler 231 1939
307 And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie 264 1939
308 Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats by T.S. Eliot 56 1939
309 How Green Was My Valley by Richard Llewellyn 448 1939
310 Wind, Sand and Stars by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry 229 1939
311 The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck 455 1939
312 Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo 309 1939
313 Farewell, My Lovely (Philip Marlowe, #2) by Raymond Chandler 292 1940
314 The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene 222 1940
315 For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway 471 1940
316 Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler 216 1940
317 The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers 359 1940
318 Native Son by Richard Wright 504 1940
319 Make Way for Ducklings by Robert McCloskey 64 1941
320 A Collection of Essays by George Orwell 316 1941
321 Curious George by H.A. Rey 48 1941
322 Between the Acts by Virginia Woolf 224 1941
323 The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays by Albert Camus 212 1942
324 The Stranger by Albert Camus 123 1942
325 Mythology by Edith Hamilton 497 1942
326 The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis 224 1942
327 West with the Night by Beryl Markham 294 1942
328 The Lady in the Lake (Philip Marlowe, #4) by Raymond Chandler 266 1943
329 The Glass Bead Game by Hermann Hesse 558 1943
330 The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand 704 1943
331 The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry 93 1943
332 A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith 496 1943
333 The Bridge on the Drina by Ivo Andrić 314 1945
334 Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren 160 1945
335 Animal Farm by George Orwell 122 1945
336 A History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russell 906 1945
337 The Pearl by John Steinbeck 96 1945
338 Cannery Row by John Steinbeck 181 1945
339 Brideshead Revisited: The Sacred and Profane Memories of Captain Charles Ryder by Evelyn Waugh 351 1945
340 Stuart Little by E.B. White 131 1945
341 The Glass Menagerie by Tennessee Williams 104 1945
342 Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl 165 1946
343 Hiroshima by John Hersey 152 1946
344 The Complete Stories by Franz Kafka 486 1946
345 The Pianist: The Extraordinary Story of One Man's Survival in Warsaw, 1939–45 by Władysław Szpilman 222 1946
346 All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren 439 1946
347 Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown 32 1947
348 The Plague by Albert Camus 308 1947
349 The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank 283 1947
350 If This Is a Man (Survival in Auschwitz) by Primo Levi 187 1947
351 The Gettysburg Address by Abraham Lincoln 32 1947
352 Under the Volcano by Malcolm Lowry 397 1947
353 No Exit and Three Other Plays by Jean-Paul Sartre 275 1947
354 A Streetcar Named Desire by Tennessee Williams 107 1947
355 The Gathering Storm (The Second World War, #1) by Winston S. Churchill 914 1948
356 The Heart of the Matter by Graham Greene 272 1948
357 Finn Family Moomintroll (The Moomins, #3) by Tove Jansson 176 1948
358 The Naked and the Dead by Norman Mailer 721 1948
359 Blueberries for Sal by Robert McCloskey 56 1948
360 Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton 316 1948
361 I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith 343 1948
362 The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir 746 1949
363 The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell 416 1949
364 The Third Man by Graham Greene 157 1949
365 The Lottery and Other Stories by Shirley Jackson 302 1949
366 Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller 117 1949
367 1984 by George Orwell 328 1949
368 The Daughter of Time (Inspector Alan Grant, #5) by Josephine Tey 206 1949
369 The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury 182 1950
370 The Story of Art by E.H. Gombrich 688 1950
371 The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt 527 1951
372 Molloy by Samuel Beckett 241 1951
373 The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury 186 1951
374 The End of the Affair by Graham Greene 160 1951
375 From Here to Eternity by James Jones 816 1951
376 The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger 277 1951
377 The Caine Mutiny by Herman Wouk 537 1951
378 The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham 228 1951
379 Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar 347 1951
380 Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett 109 1952
381 Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison 581 1952
382 The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway 132 1952
383 The Last Temptation of Christ by Nikos Kazantzakis 506 1952
384 The Borrowers (The Borrowers, #1) by Mary Norton 192 1952
385 East of Eden by John Steinbeck 601 1952
386 Collected Poems by Dylan Thomas 203 1952
387 A Child's Christmas in Wales by Dylan Thomas 48 1952
388 Charlotte's Web by E.B. White 184 1952
389 Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis 191 1952
390 The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester 250 1953
391 Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury 175 1953
392 The Long Goodbye (Philip Marlowe, #6) by Raymond Chandler 379 1953
393 Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke 224 1953
394 The Crucible by Arthur Miller 143 1953
395 Nine Stories by J.D. Salinger 198 1953
396 Under Milk Wood by Dylan Thomas 121 1953
397 Lord of the Flies by William Golding 182 1954
398 Twelve Angry Men by Reginald Rose 79 1954
399 The Collected Poems by Wallace Stevens 560 1954
400 The End of Eternity by Isaac Asimov 192 1955
401 The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester 258 1955
402 The Greek Myths by Robert Graves 782 1955
403 The Quiet American by Graham Greene 180 1955
404 Harold and the Purple Crayon by Crockett Johnson 64 1955
405 On the Road by Jack Kerouac 307 1955
406 Inherit the Wind by Jerome Lawrence 144 1955
407 Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov 417 1955
408 The Complete Stories by Flannery O'Connor 555 1955
409 J.R.R. Tolkien 4-Book Boxed Set: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien 1728 1955
410 Cat on a Hot Tin Roof by Tennessee Williams 208 1955
411 The Fall by Albert Camus 147 1956
412 My Family and Other Animals (Corfu Trilogy, #1) by Gerald Durrell 273 1956
413 Howl and Other Poems by Allen Ginsberg 56 1956
414 The Chronicles of Narnia (Chronicles of Narnia, #1-7) by C.S. Lewis 767 1956
415 Collected Poems by Edna St. Vincent Millay 768 1956
416 Long Day's Journey into Night by Eugene O'Neill 179 1956
417 Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury 239 1957
418 Doctor Zhivago by Boris Pasternak 592 1957
419 Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand 1168 1957
420 On the Beach by Nevil Shute 296 1957
421 A Bear Called Paddington (Paddington, #1) by Michael Bond 159 1958
422 Breakfast at Tiffany's by Truman Capote 142 1958
423 I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison 134 1958
424 Our Man in Havana by Graham Greene 220 1958
425 The Leopard by Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa 319 1958
426 Tom's Midnight Garden by Philippa Pearce 240 1958
427 The Agony and the Ecstasy by Irving Stone 776 1958
428 Exodus by Leon Uris 608 1958
429 The Once and Future King (The Once and Future King #1-4) by T.H. White 639 1958
430 Night (The Night Trilogy, #1) by Elie Wiesel 115 1958
431 Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe 209 1959
432 The Tin Drum by Günter Grass 580 1959
433 The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson 208 1959
434 A Canticle for Leibowitz (St. Leibowitz, #1) by Walter M. Miller Jr. 334 1959
435 Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing 282 1959
436 The Gormenghast Novels (Gormenghast, #1-3) by Mervyn Peake 1173 1959
437 The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut 224 1959
438 Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein 335 1959
439 A Man for All Seasons by Robert Bolt 192 1960
440 The Alexandria Quartet (The Alexandria Quartet #1-4) by Lawrence Durrell 884 1960
441 To Kill a Mockingbird (To Kill a Mockingbird, #1) by Harper Lee 324 1960
442 Island of the Blue Dolphins (Island of the Blue Dolphins, #1) by Scott O'Dell 184 1960
443 One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish by Dr. Seuss 64 1960
444 Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss 62 1960
445 The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany by William L. Shirer 1614 1960
446 James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl 146 1961
447 Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein 528 1961
448 Catch-22 (Catch-22, #1) by Joseph Heller 453 1961
449 The Phantom Tollbooth by Norton Juster 256 1961
450 Solaris by Stanisław Lem 204 1961
451 The Complete Tales and Poems of Winnie-the-Pooh (Winnie-the-Pooh, #1-4) by A.A. Milne 557 1961
452 The Sneetches and Other Stories by Dr. Seuss 65 1961
453 The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark 150 1961
454 The Winter of Our Discontent by John Steinbeck 336 1961
455 Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut 282 1961
456 Revolutionary Road by Richard Yates 355 1961
457 Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? by Edward Albee 272 1962
458 Labyrinths: Selected Stories and Other Writings by Jorge Luis Borges 256 1962
459 Something Wicked This Way Comes by Ray Bradbury 293 1962
460 A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess 213 1962
461 Silent Spring by Rachel Carson 378 1962
462 D'Aulaires' Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d'Aulaire 192 1962
463 The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick 259 1962
464 We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson 146 1962
465 Cover Her Face (Adam Dalgliesh #1) by P.D. James 250 1962
466 The Thin Red Line by James Jones 475 1962
467 The Snowy Day (Peter, #1) by Ezra Jack Keats 40 1962
468 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey 325 1962
469 A Wrinkle in Time (Time Quintet, #1) by Madeleine L'Engle 211 1962
470 Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov 246 1962
471 One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 182 1962
472 Travels with Charley: In Search of America by John Steinbeck 214 1962
473 The Guns of August by Barbara W. Tuchman 606 1962
474 Letters from the Earth: Uncensored Writings by Mark Twain 321 1962
475 Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil by Hannah Arendt 312 1963
476 The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin 106 1963
477 The Spy Who Came In from the Cold by John le Carré 224 1963
478 Collected Poems, 1909-1962 by T.S. Eliot 240 1963
479 The Civil War: A Narrative by Shelby Foote 2934 1963
480 The Gashlycrumb Tinies (The Vinegar Works, #1) by Edward Gorey 32 1963
481 Anti-Intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter 434 1963
482 The Best of H.P. Lovecraft: Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre by H.P. Lovecraft 406 1963
483 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath 294 1963
484 Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak 37 1963
485 The Making of the English Working Class by E.P. Thompson 864 1963
486 Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut 306 1963
487 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Charlie Bucket, #1) by Roald Dahl 176 1964
488 A Moveable Feast by Ernest Hemingway 192 1964
489 The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein 64 1964
490 The Black Cauldron (The Chronicles of Prydain, #2) by Lloyd Alexander 182 1965
491 In Cold Blood by Truman Capote 343 1965
492 The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch by Philip K. Dick 231 1965
493 The Magus by John Fowles 656 1965
494 Asterix and Cleopatra (Asterix, #6) by René Goscinny 48 1965
495 The Source by James A. Michener 1080 1965
496 Fox in Socks by Dr. Seuss 62 1965
497 Stoner by John Williams 278 1965
498 The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X 466 1965
499 Silence by Shūsaku Endō 201 1966
500 The Lion in Winter by James Goldman 103 1966
501 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein 288 1966
502 Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes 311 1966
503 Ariel by Sylvia Plath 105 1966
504 The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon 152 1966
505 Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard 126 1966
506 The Proud Tower: A Portrait of the World Before the War, 1890-1914 by Barbara W. Tuchman 588 1966
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7 with 4 fix or vice versa

November 17, 2019, 11:02 am
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How do you experience this cominbation? I've always been curious because the two types are so different from each other yet similar in some ways.
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Tina Guo (cellist)

November 17, 2019, 12:08 pm
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EIE/SEE benefit relations - experiences and opinions

November 17, 2019, 11:10 pm
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I'd love to hear all of your thoughts and experiences about this pair and how both view each other.
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Nationalism

November 18, 2019, 10:31 pm
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What do you think nationalism is, and do you support or reject it? If you think there's good and bad nationalism, what do you think makes some nationalism good and some bad?
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Hating Society

November 19, 2019, 7:37 am
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Thoughts that came from sbbds's questionnaire thread (plugged here) but I didn't wanna stray too far from topic.

Do you consciously/actively have a hatred for society?

I guess the definition of such is open and vague, but according to my own understanding, I don't hate it, I just see it as something that IS, like air. It has qualities that entertain and/or educate me, as well as, yeah, hateful aspects. It's just a thing, that's like, u know, totally THERE, and stuff.

And what's your instinct stacking? I'm sp/sx. The one type thing that has gone unquestioned in like 15-20 years, so accept it.

Do you think said hatred and instinct stacking are related? I don't think about such things myself, but I often like to listen to ppl make abstract generalizations or wax philosophical about shit (I'm a member of this forum, right?) So have at it.
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Aristocratic/Democratic dichotomy critique [rant]

November 19, 2019, 10:57 am
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I have always been a bit critical about the Reinin dichotomies, but the one that has consistently itched me the wrong way was the aristocratic/democratic dichotomy. It just doesn't match my observations and reeks of NT bias. Particularly this oppositions(from sociotype.com):

Inclined to use expressions that generalize group features &inclined to perceive and define themselves, and others, through groups they belong to(aristocrats)
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Not inclined to use expressions that generalize group features & Perceive and define themselves, and others, primarily through individual/personal qualities(democrats)

What I see SFs do:
- say stuff like "in my country/family/religion, WE do things this way"(vs NFs that say "in my country/family, things ARE done this way")
- rarely questioning and actively pushing their belief systems onto others, "you must have an income in life", "you really should try this vegan sausage", "women should be there for their family", "we should be able to retire at 60"

What I see NTs do:
- divide the world into "the smart ones" and "the dumb ones" and spend their whole life trying to defend their position as a "smart one".
- give themselves to power to divide people into different thinking paradigms (the democrats, the liberals, the humanists, the religious, the atheists, the free thinkers) and won't accept to be challenged on them (I suspect that that's why they hate "SJWs" so much). They seem to see these classifications as integral and unchanging parts of who they and other people are. It never seems to cross their minds that STs or NFs will just pretend to adhere to a school of thought just for the perks associated to it. For example when I discuss politics with NTs, they really want think that people in parliament believe in left-wing or right-wing ideas, even when they know that politics are just demaguoges.They also seem not to accept/judge people who use individual abstract classifications that are different from theirs(NFs or STs would go "you perceive yourself as non-binary? Ok here you go, that's not my thing but just do as you want, i don't give a f***").
- have a weird conception of individual action: they think it should be representative of some absolute law all the time. Will interpret all your actions through their preferred ideology.

All in all, I think that democrats attribute group identities as much as aristocrats, it's just that the group identities are about thoughts/procedures instead of feelings/social behaviour. In "democratic" society, you have to comply with social pressures(SF) to appear "like everyone should be"(NT). SFs will pressure you into their NT ideology at any cost. You can't find meat in a "vegan restaurant" because that's against the owners principles("what? you don't care about saving the rainforest?"). You can't be a transgender, because "there was a reason you were born like that". You have to go to church, celebrate chrismas or whatever just because your family does. If you don't conform to the abstracted idealized thinking/social structure of your culture, you become an outcast. In "aristocracy", no one will decide your social life for you or judge your principles on ideological grounds as "wrong thinking" and impose theirs.

Even the labels in this dichotomy show this bias. To me, the "we are the ones who believe in democracy and egality while you don't" is just as much a preachy imposition of a thought framework as the "we are the pure/good ones, follow us" NF-stuff is to NTs. Some aristocrats believe in equality/democracy, some don't. It's a PERSONAL responsibility to chose those kinds of beliefs in aristocracy.
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Interquadra Group: What would happen?

November 19, 2019, 11:17 am
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Ive been thinking about introducing my friends to each other.
I’m an ILI, my best friend is an SEE, my close friend is an LIE and I have an ESI friend as well.
What do you guys think would happen if all 4 members of a Quadra came together?
Especially Gammas, since Gamma gets a bad rep for not sticking together.
Could we accomplish something big if we came together?
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Internet videos are kill

November 19, 2019, 1:34 pm
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Margaux Sauvé (Ghostly Kisses)

November 19, 2019, 6:33 pm
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Clash of the Models: A vs G ROUND 2

November 20, 2019, 4:02 am
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