Intro:
Hey all. While this account doesn't have any history, I have had a handful of accounts throughout the years on here. I took breaks whenever the blatant mistypings and confusions got to be just too crazy. So like a hermit I have been working on getting a solid understanding of myself so that I can understand socionics so that I can then explain it and reduce the crazy typing discrepancies that are found! I am curious if you will find my description helpful or misguided, because I am all about fine tuning and sharing what I know, cause I know even vets are still unsure. Hope you enjoy
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Not every SLI is a chef, doctor, or mechanic. Now, I know this contradicts every translated article you’ve ever read, but I swear to you it’s true... :yup:
Si:
Describing Si as a sense of health and comfort does every Si lead a huge disservice because who in their right mind can say “I am my own health guru by virtue of birth”? The average description of Si is hard for anyone to relate to, even Si leads themselves. It comes with no surprise then that Si types are riddled with extreme stereotypes. “Overly-conservative, close-minded traditionalist” is what every typing noob runs with (and sadly most typers continue to run with it throughout the years) Being close-minded is a fault in logic, not a natural mode of cognition as perception is not a conscious decision.
Si is all about impressions – it is a sponge for everything. We absorb. Most of the time we have no idea what we are absorbing. But we can feel our deepest, inner gears at work as it is happening. “What do you mean feeling your thoughts? That is nonsense!,” one might say. This is where Socionics’ body sense description actually carries some (clunky) validity: Si is king of somatic subtlety. Gut feelings, vibes, hunches, “auras” are Si’s domain! Sensory information is streamed through our vast database of experience, a sea that remains mostly unconscious, to arrive at our consciousness with a definite flavor, a definite impression picked up from the past that is stored within us. Contrast this subjectivity of Si with the objectivity of Se that keeps sensory information outside of itself, preventing the bias and individualization that accompanies Si. Jung described Si as anthropomorphizing objects and animals and it is precisely because of its staining the outer world with its own bias that it re-casts these things superstitiously. We live in a very colorful world!
Te:
Si needs guidance. On its own it is merely a data vacuum. Over time it catalogs patterns, but without a rational function these patterns acquire no meaning and no opportunities of capitalization. Te is our best friend. Give us facts, give us principles in which to interpret our experiences and we will master interpreting the data. SiTes can also come up with their own conclusions about raw data, but THEY NEED EXPERIENCE, testing and calculating in the real world! For example, consider body language. Before being educated upon how to read people, an SiTe might subconsciously figure out it is best to avoid someone who has their fists clenched in the corner. The only information they have to go on at that point is a strange gut feeling that tells them to avoid him. Later on they read a book (Te) that describes what this posture is correlated with. Now both the unconscious and the conscious may together decide that it is best to avoid him. Past data can now be analyzed through a Te lens while simultaneously using that data's history to judge if the proposed fact itself is applicable. The Si – Te dynamic is one of information gathering (Si) and conclusion making (Te) much like a laboratory experiment (See Gulenko’s Vortical-Synergetic Cognition) Te is creative in that we apply it to our first function (raw data) and come up with conclusions and thus plans of action.
(Ne and Fi are areas that need much more study for me. It took much to come to the above understanding and I look forward to contributing my study to these two functions as well!)
To address the stereotypes of conservatism in Si leads: it carries validity (as does almost every stereotype) Our inner data is paramount to our psyche. Whatever perspective we currently hold has been blasted by Te through our Si database, tested the best ways we could have thought to test it. Time allows for more experience and verifying facts and opinions so the longer a perspective has been with us the more vigorously it has withstood our tests of it. To expect us to go along immediately and cheerfully with a brand new idea that refutes the old one is counter our way of being. It is pure close-mindedness to outright reject the new, but it makes cognitive sense in an Si psyche to carefully explore and test the new, giving it the time and experience our current view has weathered through as well.
To address my first sentence: while not every SiTe knows about the body, about cooking, and about mechanics, they are definite interests or areas of admiration for just about any SiTe. Those three represent areas in daily life that can promote harmony and good feelings or destroy it (Feeling great in your body vs feeling pain. Enjoying delicious food vs. miserably craving food. Having an enjoyable riding experience vs. being broken down and stranded) Because of Delta’s minus Si, We strive to prevent negative events from occurring, specifically the concrete and experiential events associated with those three areas and Si. While all Deltas care about these things, sometimes circumstance dictates worries that are of greater concern than dabbling in any of those stereotypical Si areas. An SiTe will always do what they believe is most rational, and if that does not include any of their hobbies of natural aptitude you can bet they are wishing for and perhaps working towards a life that can support that - we are Reinin Obstinate after all ...:lol:
I am working on writing up more. To me there was a lot of mystery in most descriptions of the first two functions, so I am hoping that even one person is able to get something out of an SLI's description of SLI
P.S. USE REININ USE REININ USE REININ
Hey all. While this account doesn't have any history, I have had a handful of accounts throughout the years on here. I took breaks whenever the blatant mistypings and confusions got to be just too crazy. So like a hermit I have been working on getting a solid understanding of myself so that I can understand socionics so that I can then explain it and reduce the crazy typing discrepancies that are found! I am curious if you will find my description helpful or misguided, because I am all about fine tuning and sharing what I know, cause I know even vets are still unsure. Hope you enjoy
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Not every SLI is a chef, doctor, or mechanic. Now, I know this contradicts every translated article you’ve ever read, but I swear to you it’s true... :yup:
Si:
Describing Si as a sense of health and comfort does every Si lead a huge disservice because who in their right mind can say “I am my own health guru by virtue of birth”? The average description of Si is hard for anyone to relate to, even Si leads themselves. It comes with no surprise then that Si types are riddled with extreme stereotypes. “Overly-conservative, close-minded traditionalist” is what every typing noob runs with (and sadly most typers continue to run with it throughout the years) Being close-minded is a fault in logic, not a natural mode of cognition as perception is not a conscious decision.
Si is all about impressions – it is a sponge for everything. We absorb. Most of the time we have no idea what we are absorbing. But we can feel our deepest, inner gears at work as it is happening. “What do you mean feeling your thoughts? That is nonsense!,” one might say. This is where Socionics’ body sense description actually carries some (clunky) validity: Si is king of somatic subtlety. Gut feelings, vibes, hunches, “auras” are Si’s domain! Sensory information is streamed through our vast database of experience, a sea that remains mostly unconscious, to arrive at our consciousness with a definite flavor, a definite impression picked up from the past that is stored within us. Contrast this subjectivity of Si with the objectivity of Se that keeps sensory information outside of itself, preventing the bias and individualization that accompanies Si. Jung described Si as anthropomorphizing objects and animals and it is precisely because of its staining the outer world with its own bias that it re-casts these things superstitiously. We live in a very colorful world!
Te:
Si needs guidance. On its own it is merely a data vacuum. Over time it catalogs patterns, but without a rational function these patterns acquire no meaning and no opportunities of capitalization. Te is our best friend. Give us facts, give us principles in which to interpret our experiences and we will master interpreting the data. SiTes can also come up with their own conclusions about raw data, but THEY NEED EXPERIENCE, testing and calculating in the real world! For example, consider body language. Before being educated upon how to read people, an SiTe might subconsciously figure out it is best to avoid someone who has their fists clenched in the corner. The only information they have to go on at that point is a strange gut feeling that tells them to avoid him. Later on they read a book (Te) that describes what this posture is correlated with. Now both the unconscious and the conscious may together decide that it is best to avoid him. Past data can now be analyzed through a Te lens while simultaneously using that data's history to judge if the proposed fact itself is applicable. The Si – Te dynamic is one of information gathering (Si) and conclusion making (Te) much like a laboratory experiment (See Gulenko’s Vortical-Synergetic Cognition) Te is creative in that we apply it to our first function (raw data) and come up with conclusions and thus plans of action.
(Ne and Fi are areas that need much more study for me. It took much to come to the above understanding and I look forward to contributing my study to these two functions as well!)
To address the stereotypes of conservatism in Si leads: it carries validity (as does almost every stereotype) Our inner data is paramount to our psyche. Whatever perspective we currently hold has been blasted by Te through our Si database, tested the best ways we could have thought to test it. Time allows for more experience and verifying facts and opinions so the longer a perspective has been with us the more vigorously it has withstood our tests of it. To expect us to go along immediately and cheerfully with a brand new idea that refutes the old one is counter our way of being. It is pure close-mindedness to outright reject the new, but it makes cognitive sense in an Si psyche to carefully explore and test the new, giving it the time and experience our current view has weathered through as well.
To address my first sentence: while not every SiTe knows about the body, about cooking, and about mechanics, they are definite interests or areas of admiration for just about any SiTe. Those three represent areas in daily life that can promote harmony and good feelings or destroy it (Feeling great in your body vs feeling pain. Enjoying delicious food vs. miserably craving food. Having an enjoyable riding experience vs. being broken down and stranded) Because of Delta’s minus Si, We strive to prevent negative events from occurring, specifically the concrete and experiential events associated with those three areas and Si. While all Deltas care about these things, sometimes circumstance dictates worries that are of greater concern than dabbling in any of those stereotypical Si areas. An SiTe will always do what they believe is most rational, and if that does not include any of their hobbies of natural aptitude you can bet they are wishing for and perhaps working towards a life that can support that - we are Reinin Obstinate after all ...:lol:
I am working on writing up more. To me there was a lot of mystery in most descriptions of the first two functions, so I am hoping that even one person is able to get something out of an SLI's description of SLI
P.S. USE REININ USE REININ USE REININ